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Substrate question

Postby JeffC » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:04 am

I just had a quick question about substrate if anyone could help out. I am using repti bark right now. I know someone who had a rabbit that passed away, they have a big bag of aspen bedding left over. She said that I could have it if I wanted, so basically I was wondering if its ok to use rabbit aspen bedding for my blue tongue? I'm not sure what the difference is between that and the reptile aspen, I just wanted to see if it was safe to use before I use it.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby Dakota » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:10 am

I know Aspen bedding in general is good, not sure if the rabbit one would make a difference..
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Re: Substrate question

Postby Dood » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:38 am

I have seen both and the one sold for small mammals was quite a bit dustier and had smaller bits in it than the type sold specifically for reptiles.

Other than that they were the same.

I'd use it but would try and shake out the dust and smallest bits by tossing small batches of the bedding outside in a sheet.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby donkeybuff » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:52 am

The small animal/rabbit one is the one I use, and it is actually better for skinks than the reptile one. The reptile one has smaller pieces and more splintery bits, so it gets caught in blueys' noses and eyes more often than the rabbit one.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby jdheff1982 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:42 pm

Since we are question substrates, has anyone here used some sort of dirt/potting soil? If so, what type/brand is recommended? I'd love to switch from the aspen to something more natural looking.

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Re: Substrate question

Postby donkeybuff » Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:45 pm

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24258&hilit=soil

There's some good info about soil in there. My only personal experience with any soil-like substrate is with eco-earth, but I found it too dusty for my liking.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby JeffC » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:06 pm

Thanks for the responses everyone.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby Jeff » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:07 pm

Small animal aspen is better than reptile aspen in my opinion.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby jdheff1982 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:27 pm

Jeff wrote:Small animal aspen is better than reptile aspen in my opinion.


I agree. I wouldn't want my BTS on the smaller aspen bits I use for my corn snake. However, you gotta wonder how these guys survive in the wild with all the variety of sized items they could accidentally ingest.

I may have to try either the eco-earth or the plantation soil in place of the aspen shavings. The shavings may work for easier cleaning; but, I'd rather provide a presentable habitat and one that looks much more natural.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby Dakota » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:31 pm

I use finely shredded made for various animals as said on the bag, and it works fine.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby jdheff1982 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:51 pm

IMO, I think most any substrate can be used -provided it works in favor of the animal- as long as the owner takes the required precautions to prevent the animal from ingesting the substrate. For example, with my corn snake. I use the aspen bedding designed for snakes and he loves it for the burrowing capabilities. I'd image a BTS would like it, too. I personally think it looks much better than the large shredded aspen bedding. However, almost anytime I feed my snake, he ingests a small bit of the bedding because it sticks to everything. I've got to be careful where I place a thawed mouse; otherwise, it gets "breaded" by the bedding. Additionally, since the bits are so small, he has no problem digesting them along with the rodents.

I dunno, maybe the snake aspen bedding would be a good choice. Smaller pieces would make it easier for the BTS to digest then if it tried swallowing a much larger piece. Hmmm....
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Re: Substrate question

Postby donkeybuff » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:53 pm

Smaller pieces tend to get stuck in their nostrils and irritate their eyes.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby TJreptiles » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:40 pm

Do any of you use "no" substrate? By that I mean like carpet or news paper?also do they seem to like it?
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Re: Substrate question

Postby Dakota » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:45 pm

Some people do, but I would never do that.. unless in quarantine or something.. they are semi-burial animals.. like putting a worm on newspaper or something. :lol:

If you give lots of hides, it can be done with no stress(..?), though.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby TJreptiles » Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:02 pm

Thanks just wondering.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby Jeff » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:09 pm

Some very experienced breeders keep their skinks on carpet or paper. I keep my females on carpet for at least a couple months a year when they are giving birth. It has advantages and disadvantages like just about everything else.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby mzelinger » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:15 pm

Hello. I just got my first BTS this past Saturday. So excited!!! I also have a question about substrate. It seems most people are in favor of using the Aspen Shavings as a substrate. I bought the one that says "Small Pet Bedding" by KAYTEE. Is this the right one? I want to make sure it's not the one used for rabbits as I've read that one has small pieces and it can hurt the BTS. It seems like the "Small Pet Bedding" one has small pieces too. Please see the picture of the bag in the attachment. Thank you.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby donkeybuff » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:51 pm

Rabbits are included in "Small Pets", so Small pet bedding is the same as rabbit bedding. The one you have is the correct one; it is the reptile one that you are not supposed to use.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby Dakota » Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:20 pm

This is what I use:
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And has never caused me any problems in the years of me using it. Pros and cons to everything.
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Re: Substrate question

Postby Richard.C » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:05 pm

Wernt you using carefresh up until recently?

Or do u mean in dog years

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