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Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Dakota » Wed May 08, 2013 5:11 pm

This is the skink I'm getting, already put a down-payment on him, and expecting to get him in July. I am super fond of his/her pattern, never seen it before. I was wondering if it was normal? If so, what part of Indonesia are the found? Reduced Pattern much?

Any name suggested? I'm more into unique, but normal names. Like Hunter, Elizabeth, ect.
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby xxmonitorlizardxx » Wed May 08, 2013 5:19 pm

Looks like an IJ with thin bands...
Reminds me of a skink Fatal produced:
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Not the same reduced pattern, but this skink has thin bands for an IJ.
I thought you wanted to breed Meraukes though?
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Dakota » Wed May 08, 2013 5:25 pm

I am, :D this is just going to be an addition to the family, possibly to breed, but in future when I get another, could be a project.
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Dakota » Wed May 08, 2013 5:26 pm

Do they occur in the wild or selective breeding in captivity?
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby xxmonitorlizardxx » Wed May 08, 2013 5:28 pm

Dakota Nivens wrote:Do they occur in the wild or selective breeding in captivity?

No one has did enough research in the wild to determine much about patterns in the wild. Also no one has did any line breeding in captivity for IJ's.
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby nmcnick » Wed May 08, 2013 5:32 pm

WOW... beautiful skink, very unique IJ you have :)
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Dakota » Wed May 08, 2013 5:38 pm

xxmonitorlizardxx wrote:
Dakota Nivens wrote:Do they occur in the wild or selective breeding in captivity?

No one has did enough research in the wild to determine much about patterns in the wild. Also no one has did any line breeding in captivity for IJ's.

Thanks for the info!
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Dakota » Wed May 08, 2013 5:39 pm

nmcnick wrote:WOW... beautiful skink, very unique IJ you have :)

Will be getting, ha. He definitely is a pretty one.
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Katrina » Wed May 08, 2013 6:02 pm

That doesn't look too unusual. Not selectively bred, not many people breed them let alone selectively breed.

Do you have enough enclosures for three? I thought you had one small enclosure for your current two.
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Susann » Wed May 08, 2013 6:05 pm

Katrina wrote:That doesn't look too unusual.

Thank you; I was trying to figure out what everybody was seeing that was so unusual....
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Dakota » Wed May 08, 2013 6:08 pm

Katrina wrote:Do you have enough enclosures for three? I thought you had one small enclosure for your current two.

Yes, I am getting him after we have had time to settle down in Florida, which means I will have an extra cage for an adult while they are in their new enclosure.
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby UroFreak13 » Wed May 08, 2013 6:11 pm

Susann wrote:
Katrina wrote:That doesn't look too unusual.

Thank you; I was trying to figure out what everybody was seeing that was so unusual....


Very pretty none the less
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Susann » Wed May 08, 2013 6:13 pm

Dakota Nivens wrote:I am getting him after we have had time to settle down in Florida, which means I will have an extra cage for an adult while they are in their new enclosure.

Are you keeping your current 2 together still after the enclosure-build?

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Susann wrote:
Katrina wrote:That doesn't look too unusual.

Thank you; I was trying to figure out what everybody was seeing that was so unusual....


Very pretty none the less

Yes, VERY pretty.
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Scincoides » Wed May 08, 2013 10:02 pm

Very nice skink. Congrats. Post some pictures of him when he shows up
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Fatal_S » Wed May 08, 2013 10:07 pm

No, it is not unique. Yes, it is very pretty. My guess would be female (but my guesses tend to be worth slightly less than flipping coins...)

There seems to be a spectrum between IJ and Merauke. This is an IJ with a touch of Merauke-look thrown in (thinner bands than most IJs). IJs however come in a huge array of looks - from looking almost like an Eastern to looking almost like a Merauke. The variations are amazing, and make IJs a very interesting species of BTS.
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Dakota » Thu May 09, 2013 4:16 am

Susann wrote:Are you keeping your current 2 together still after the enclosure-build?

It can be all one cage, but I have a divider it in it, so each skink has their own territory. They will each get 5ft x 2ft x 1.5ft to them self, only letting the divider up for breeding for a minute or so. I will be keeping this dude in a 55 gallon enclosure, I believe 48" x 13" x 21" which is on the small size, so maybe I can build him one, also.
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Dakota » Thu May 09, 2013 4:21 am

Fatal_S wrote:No, it is not unique. Yes, it is very pretty. My guess would be female (but my guesses tend to be worth slightly less than flipping coins...)

There seems to be a spectrum between IJ and Merauke. This is an IJ with a touch of Merauke-look thrown in (thinner bands than most IJs). IJs however come in a huge array of looks - from looking almost like an Eastern to looking almost like a Merauke. The variations are amazing, and make IJs a very interesting species of BTS.

I was thinking male, after looking at it good. I see a slight hemipene bulge.
IJ can be so hard to tell the difference in Eastern, sometimes.. :doh:
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Dakota » Thu May 09, 2013 4:22 am

He measured him, and he is 18".
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Richard.C » Thu May 09, 2013 10:20 am

it looks female to me,but can be hard to tell in pics at times

a good example of a more gigas looking ij,looks in good shape
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Re: Unique pattern on IJ, normal?

Postby Dakota » Thu May 09, 2013 4:22 pm

Definitely has some residue of a stripe down the neck.
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