another pr of rugosa aspera joined the collection

[Richard.C]

just picked these guys up today,they make all my others look like dwarves,lol,the female is the fattest stumpy ive ever seen,anyways heres some pics

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[Scotts1au]

Are you trying to hoover up the market :-) ??

[Jeff]

They look great! How about some weights and measurements?

[Richard.C]

new pr are 40cm long,the female is 9 cm wide from flank to flank,almost a quarter of her length,the male from last week is 35 cms long,similar in comparison to my old line,smaller forms,thats total lengths,ill grab some scales when i duck to shops shortly,keep forgetting to grab some,have to pick up a slab of dogfood anyways,been watching them to see if they settle in,the females breathing pretty deeply,hmmmm

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[kenn]

Woow!
Gorgeous animals!!!!

[cactusboy]

They're nice Richard, did you purchase them at the same store as your previous one? If so you beat me to it.

Where do you keep them in an outdoor pit or an indoor enclosure?

[Jeff]

Her proportions do look a little bit... suspicious. I am curious how much she weighs just to get a better idea of her overall size.

[Richard.C]

cactusboy,no these 2 i found on facebook of all places,someone offering them up on a reptile stores facebook page,i hate facebook,bit hate ot slightly less now,lol

jeff the lass is 970 grams at 40 cm length

the male is 40 cm to but weighs 757 grams

last weeks pr the male weighs 445 grams at 35 cm

the little lass whom looks very young is 31cm and weighs a measily 263 grams

my now 11 year old male from old line weighs 479 grams and is 33 cm
the ten year old female from my old line whom i believe dropped slugs now weighs 450 grams and is 35 cm

and my now 11 year old rugosa rugosa male is 37 cm long and 450 grams

[Fred Gaal]

Again you have some new beauty's, I love the fat Tail's.
How many Shingles you have now?

[Lea]

Wow, the female is the image my my late lizzie and she tipped the scales at 1.1kg! Great find, Richard. Was this a planned purchase?

[Jeff]

That's pretty heavy for her length Richard! It would be great if she is carrying around a little bonus for you! I know there is a difference in proportions between T.r.rugosa and T.r.aspers, but this is my biggest rugosa:



He is 40cm as well, and very thick and heavy, yet he only weighs 707g. It's hard to imagine she could weigh that much without being gravid.

[Richard.C]

planned? i saw a month old facebook post offering a pr and there enclosure,so out of curiosity enquired,hadnt heard back for a week then out of the blue did,ask for some pics,like what i saw so got them,or do you mean her being possably gravid lea?

i just thought looks like a healthy pr from pics i got,when i got there thought sheesh its fat,previous owner said shes the male,males are solider of body,bigger heads,i just nodded and smiled,the male,which is actually the female also eats better

cactusboy,i keep all my stumpies indoors,oneday i plan to experiment with a covered outdoor enclosure,to try kreping it dryer

[Richard.C]

jeff he does look solid for a rugosa,my male looks like a shovel,long skinny and boofheaded

fred i have 3 male and 4 female rugosa asperas and a lone male rugosa rugosa

[Richard.C]

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[Lea]

I just wondered if you'd deliberately been looking, but looks like it was a case of serendipity! Extra bonus if she's gravid!

[acanthurus]

Great looking shingles! Hard to tell just from body shape if she is gravid or not. The easiest way that I have found, especially when they are close to giving birth, is by how the body feels. The babies are so large that it makes it very difficult for the girls to flex their body. When you pick up a heavily gravid girl they generally feel very tense through their length and hold themselves quite rigid (like if they are full of one of 2 lengths of hard tire rubber). When it is just fat they will tend to be quite soft and the body almost floppy through the sides (like they are full of custard).

Either way at least you won't need to wait too long before you know

[Richard.C]

haha,true,its stumpy bub season now,she does tense up when i pick her up,was going to try taking a side on pic in my hand to show belly thickness but she goes all awkward so left her be

she definatly doing the heavy breathing of a gravid lass plus have seen her do the squirm like my northern girls do late term,but wont know till something happens,im not sure if they were cooled or what,and always the chance shes just a fatty,i guess at worst shes ready for brumation weight wise for next season,which is what i was after

[bo88]

The first few pictures I couldn't tell which end was their tails and which were their heads! These guys are super neat and it'd be wonderful if she turned out to be gravid