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Re: UV lighting

Postby hurricanejen » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:38 pm

SapphireTigress wrote:I'm not against UV necessarily, and I DONT plan on keeping my blueys at the "bare minimum". However, I dont want to risk the problems that I've been seeing with recalled bulbs, horrible eye trauma, irritation, and blindness. I'm waiting for more information to come out about UV and it to become safer before I decide to make a change to a system that DOES work.


UVB lights have been in manufacture and used since the early 90s, at least - tube fluorescents, at least those by ZooMed and Arcadia, have excellent reputations because they've been used for such a long time. When used properly, I can't think of a single time I've heard of or seen someone with an animal that had eye trauma, irritation, or blindness. When they get too close, the bulb is old, or it's an off brand or a lesser quality brand, yes, you do run that risk. I work with hundreds of UVB bulbs a day for all the cages at my store, in combination with thousands of them sold - I know of a handful of eye issues that were due to UVB lights, and in all of them the lights were not being used correctly. Pointing them any direction but straight down, using expired bulbs, even one person who just had the bare bulb wired down into the cage - it shouldn't be that much of a surprise that the animal had issues.

But in a hood on top of the cage, replaced yearly, at the appropriate distance from the animal with the appropriate bulb (2.0, 5.0, 10.0) used? You won't see a single problem.

When it comes to mercury vapor bulbs, I can see your hesitancy. Those have only been around for reptiles a short time. I'm confident in them though, and I love them, not only because I use them for just about everything at home but I see several dozen in use at work daily, and I can see the effects they have on the animals over even just a short period of time. My perspective is a little different I guess. :)

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Re: UV lighting

Postby Fatal_S » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:35 pm

I believe the eye issues with UVB happened when one type of bulb (compact florescent) was made improperly. I've never heard of any other UVB issues.

I love Mercury Vapour Bulbs, but they're just too high-wattage to use in my setups safely. If they come out with a lower-wattage bulbs I will definitely use them.
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Re: UV lighting

Postby normalisamyth » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:43 pm

So in the end, what's the general consensus? From what i gather we're in favour of UVB. So I'm assuming it does help behaviour in some way. Is it known yet in what? Is it worth the money in the end?
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Re: UV lighting

Postby Fatal_S » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:52 pm

IMO a mercury vapour bulb, used properly, is worth using. Other UVB sources are a waste of money. Supplements are most important.
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Re: UV lighting

Postby hurricanejen » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:03 pm

For beginners, I always recommend UV. They can be raised without it but you do have to pay a lot closer attention to supplements. IMO if you have to add supplements to the diet that much, maybe something in the husbandry is lacking and could be adjusted?

Just playing a little bit of devil's advocate. :) I'm a fan of UVB for everything. When it comes to blue tongues though, if you can set them up with an MVB that's fantastic, if not, a good diet and appropriate supplements do work just fine at preventing metabolic bone disease.

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Re: UV lighting

Postby Rani-May » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:53 pm

supplementing has nothing to do with husbandry...some people even say that if their food is varied enough,they dont need either. but supplements are to make sure they get the right proportions of calcium and d3 etc etc. I dont understand how that has anything to do with husbandry?
Either way, everyone has dfferent opinions about this in the end. it has been argued about and debated over since the start lol
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Re: UV lighting

Postby Richard.C » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:20 pm

The eye issue isnt overly common,i guess just be wary of new brands,from what ive heard it was the compact spiral uv flouros from a couple of companies that caused issues,theres plenty of old brands that have never caused issues

I have never noticed any difference in animal behaviour with then with out there use to warrant bothering to use them,there may be benefits with there use with vision ,but i havnt seen anything personally,there certainly not miracle lights that will protect animals fed poorly,which unfortunatly is how they are advertised which is false

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