what sp they are?

[Hanzo]

eastern ? northern ? IJ ??

[Lea]

Hmmm, definitely not Northern but the distinction between eastern and IJ isn't all that clear. I am leaning towards IJ. These are fairly young ones, aren't they? IJ's have such an array of oranges and browns and do a remarkable job at looking like easterns at times. Maybe these are the result of some interbreeding overseas. They are nothing like the easterns in SA, for example, but their colours vary across Australia quite widely, also.

So, umm, IJ's, but with some eastern ancestors thrown in for confusion?

Tough one.

[tylociraptor]

Hmmm, definitely not Northern but the distinction between eastern and IJ isn't all that clear. I am leaning towards IJ. These are fairly young ones, aren't they? IJ's have such an array of oranges and browns and do a remarkable job at looking like easterns at times. Maybe these are the result of some interbreeding overseas. They are nothing like the easterns in SA, for example, but their colours vary across Australia quite widely, also.

So, umm, IJ's, but with some eastern ancestors thrown in for confusion?

Tough one.

The one thing I tend to notice about northersn from my little experience is the BRIGHTNESS on the sides, especially in young animals. At first glance, I thought IJ too.

[xxmonitorlizardxx]

Northern x IJ

[Richard.C]

could be northern ij crosses, can see northern traits,not all northerns are bright either,caramel northerns for instance

hanzo what are they claimed to be