Predation on Tiliqua

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Predation on Tiliqua

Postby xxmonitorlizardxx » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:50 pm

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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby Karen » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:25 pm

Little guy certainly didn't go down without a fight.
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby Fatal_S » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:10 pm

The Blue Tongue may have the last say as he has bitten the snake so both may die.

This makes me chuckle. A BTS bite may hurt but it didn't exactly get the snake anywhere vital. Saying that makes it sound like the BTS is venomous.

Also, that snake is going to be super fat.

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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby Scotts1au » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:01 pm

I was a little disturbed by those photos cos they looked set up, in other words the bluey was fed to the snake. When are you going to see a brown snake and bluey out in the open like that?

Neither species are likely to do that by accident.
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby Richard.C » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:39 pm

quite a few dead on road brown snakes and others are found with tiliqua bulges in there stomachs,thats how they rediscovered the pygmy bluetongue,though on seeing the bulge they thought it was an eastern until they cut the snake open
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby Richard.C » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:50 pm

if you look on you tube,theres a funny instance of a king skink going after a dugite on film

look under kingskink chases dugite,mind u those king skinks are feisty
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby Scotts1au » Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:46 am

I disturbed a copperhead on the outskirts of Melbourne once and it darted under an old car door. When I went to investigate a bit later there was a regurgitated blotched bluey only recently eaten. Yes they do it, no argument but not for the cameras.
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby El Lobo » Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:54 am

I agree with what Scott is saying; those pictures look to me to be taken on cut grass such as around a building which also suggests to me they are contrived. If they are it is a bit sad they are published on the website of an organisation promoting its values as a wildlife rescue.

Snakes do predate blueys though; I have first hand experience of a Copperhead preying on blotchies.
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby critterguy » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:57 pm

Thats a pretty big meal. Wouldn't be surprised if they ended up rolling out into the open from the tussle.

I bet blueys are up against a lot of other predators. Hawks? Any mammals? Monitor lizards?

People always ask me how blueys survive in the wild, mellow captives seem so vulnerable. I guess their secretive habits, good senses, nasty attitudes(and that blue tongue?), and somewhat prolific breeding keeps them going.

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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby Scotts1au » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:15 pm

That is standard modus operandi for a copperhead, they are very secretive generally and regurgitate to make sure of their getaway.
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby anchietae » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:00 pm

I examined the stomach contents of many road killed Aspidites in the Pilbara of Western Australia over several months in 1990. I found Tiliqua multifasciata in the gut of more than a few Black-headed Pythons and Womas. Centralian Blue-tongues are quite common in the great Sandy Desert and are no doubt an important part of the diet of these pythons in this area.
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby Richard.C » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:18 pm

did u see any centralian blueys active at night casey?in hot weather they can hide during the day and come out at night a bit,another trait that would make encounters with aspidites frequent to,i guess with the heat that alot would find shelter together to
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Postby anchietae » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:40 pm

I did see them active at night on occasion. I remember one evening after a rain when there were many newborns on the road. This was the first time it had rained in about a year. I've also seen multifasciata hiding under termite mounds in the open areas that are dug out underneath. I've seen pythons here too. No doubt a place where many encounters between skink and python occur.

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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby Richard.C » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:47 pm

nice shots casey,thanks for sharing your obcervations to,i live in aus but have never ventured over to wa,had family in exmouth so had excuses but unfortunatly never got a chance to visit
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby bella3 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:16 pm

Stunning photos, and I think that Karen was right saying that the skink sure didn't go down without a fight!
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby Scotts1au » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:57 pm

Not much of a contest though against one of the most poisonous snakes in the world.
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby Richard.C » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:10 pm

an eastern brown trying to consume a rugosa aspera,
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby xxmonitorlizardxx » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:13 pm

That snake is eating 3000 USD!!!!
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby Richard.C » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:15 pm

a la carte reptile style,its eating a pack of 2 minute noodles here ML
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Re: Predation on Tiliqua

Postby xxmonitorlizardxx » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:17 pm

On a golden plate with diamonds...
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