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Postby Peter » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:56 pm

check out these very desirable beauties

http://www.snakeranchnews.com.au/pages/ ... tion=news2
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Postby KyleWeiss » Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:22 pm

Although a huge fan of keeping natural colors natural (especially for the US bluey population...) those are fascinating pictures with an interesting article. I am curious about the "co-dominant" gene they're theorizing... Though it can only lead to "morphs..."

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Postby bluetonguemad » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:07 pm

those are very interesting looking skinks, albanism and hypermelanism is what weve been studying in bio at the moment and its really quite interesting...

i still need to find a little more out to fully understand it, but hopefully it wont take too long...
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Postby Christi Rose » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:17 pm

Wow!!! I just can't stop looking at them... they're just so interesting. It's amazing how different one species can be.
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Postby bluetonguemad » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:19 pm

but interbreeding is wrong and should not be done, it destroys the trueness of the subspecies
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Postby Christi Rose » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:26 pm

To be honest I didn't read the article, I just looked at the pics. It is disappointed when humans go to that length to make something more physically appealling.
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Postby Jadex25 » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:39 pm

As interesting as the albino bts is i just LOVE the little black ones...So glossy :)
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Postby KyleWeiss » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:54 pm

There's been a recent upsurge in the sightings and display of these super dark Easterns.

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Postby Zach » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:55 pm

I don't feel like a tirade, but I will say that I have a soft spot for the little black Easterns. :knewthat: And I'm not sure I have a stance right now on breeding the "mutation" animals. I just don't like light Northerns being called ICE MORPH and darker Northerns called KNIGHT RIDER MORPH, etc. Especially when it's done just to make them sound unique when they're really not.

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Postby bluetonguemad » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:55 pm

it could be an inter breeding problem in the wild maybe, can anyone verify that that may be a possiblity?
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Postby KyleWeiss » Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:00 am

:freaks: "Night Rider?" :doh: :rofl:

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Postby Jadex25 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:23 am

I hope this kinda breeding dosnt become as popular as ball python or bearded dragons morphs...I recon that they look cool but thats not what the real animal looks like...Like with bearded dragons there are like german gaints or somthing and all these ice and fire morphs...its getting outta control
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Postby DeadEye » Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:43 am

Give them a cool name Please :wink: .Like Dark vaders MMMM


Black-as-coal beauties - these hypermelanistic bluetongues were produced from heterozygous parents.
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Postby KyleWeiss » Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:50 am

I like morphs, but not at the expense of losing the natural variant.

Leopard Geckoes are a classic example. Finding a natural example that isn't imported is almost impossible, and they're so cool looking...

I saw a bunch of leopard geckoes fresh from Pakistan in San Francisco at one point, all fairly healthy, but there were no bands, no purples, no "carrot" colors, just dark mustard yellow and dark brown spots. They looked similar to this:

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Most breeders are very into making a quick buck on the "next new trend." That is such a pretty face! :(

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Postby bluetonguemad » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:54 am

i think people need to rethink, i mean animals are the colours they are for natural reasons, hunting and camoflague etc, so why take away their natural beauty just for a quick buck, the black easterns are cool though
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Postby harry » Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:23 am

WoW...they are so nice.I would love one or two or three of those :P
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Postby rothexl » Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:34 am

I want a little black one... :love:
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Postby Leigh » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:00 am

There's a guy over hear making a fortune doing seminars and promoting his book all about Morph's and how to do it, Whats next dye injections to boost colourig, the do this with fish, ITS JUST WRONG.....
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Postby NomadOfTheHills » Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:05 am

Dyeing fish is different than selective breeding.
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Postby Peter » Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:35 pm

seems to be a bit of confusion here, these are pure Tiliqua scincoides scincoides. They initially occurred naturally and are now being bred to maintain the morph. There is no interbreeding of other species or sub species.
They are pet bluetongues above all else, that should be kept in mind. If you follow the line of purity in species then all captive animals are suspect. Their purity is only hearsay.
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