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Please help me identify the sub-species!

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:49 pm
by lucy
Hello!
I am brand new to this forum and was wondering if anybody could help me identify the subspecies of the blue tongued skinks in the attached picture taken by the seller (genders unknown and age approx 4/5 months but they are siblings)!
I am bringing one of these little ones home soon, but first I need to have the vivarium set up and temperature-tested. To do this I feel like it would be important to know the subspecies so that I can have the correct temperatures/humidity levels/bedding and whatever else for that particular breed!

I live in the UK, and the seller told me this:
"They came from the breeder as 'tiliqua scincoides sp.' so unfortunately I don't have the sub species. They will be Indonesian though as its rare to find true Australian blue tongues now."

I'm just not convinced by his statement and wanted to be sure if anyone could help I would appreciate it so much! Thank you :)

Re: Please help me identify the sub-species!

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:53 am
by Evaughan
They kind of look just like my blue tongue skink Dino, who is a halmahera. I am by no means a skink identifing expert though. :doh:

Re: Please help me identify the sub-species!

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:40 am
by EricaLikeBurrito
Pretty sure they are Irian Jayas since they don't have a species name yet and are listed as tiliqua scincoides sp.

Re: Please help me identify the sub-species!

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:01 pm
by lucy
Thank you so much for your responses!
I will post more photos when he/she finally comes home, for a better view of size/colour/belly etc.
So do you think it probably isn't Indonesian?

Re: Please help me identify the sub-species!

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:16 pm
by EricaLikeBurrito
It's Indonesian.

Re: Please help me identify the sub-species!

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:32 am
by splashy07
Irian Jaya or IJ x Merauke, either way not scincoides but gigas. Indonesian subspecies.

Re: Please help me identify the sub-species!

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:56 am
by lucy
Hello again! I now have my little friend (I call him my son for amusement :lol: though I'm not sure I'll ever know the gender so I've just decided he's a boy) still no name as of yet.

He has been spending most of the day in the hide at the hot end and has only explored a little when I gently removed the hide so he could see I was putting food down. Still hasn't touched it though :( will he be able to smell that there's food by smelling the air from inside the hide at the other end of the viv? I don't know much about how strong their sense of smell is!

I know he needs time to adjust which is why I'm not bothering him and am simply quietly sitting a metre or so from the viv. Just an over-worrier haha.
Got a good pic of him while he was out before he ran back into that rock you see in the first picture! Not sure if they're better pictures to identify him or not!
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He's now had his first night and temperature drop and still no food eaten or water drank. I've changed the water again this morning and was planning to redo his food after 24hrs of it sitting in his viv, just to give him a chance.
I'm really worried he's not going to be getting enough uvb d3 or calcium if he continues the way he has done all yesterday and last night. What if it takes months for him to come out on his own? (I.e. WITHOUT me moving his hot end hide to force him to be out for a couple mins)

Re: Please help me identify the sub-species!

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:24 am
by Edward
Congratulations on your new little friend!

And for what it's worth, it's a Tiliqua gigas something