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ID on Skink

Postby Ethroes » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:46 am

Would someone be able to ID a skink I'm planning on purchasing? Does it look healthy and all? It was shedding when the pictures were taken. Also, how large will it be when it's matured... I'm still planning out the dimensions for the terrarium. Would a 48" or 52" by 24" by 20" (L,W,H) be fine? Thanks all!

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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Spindown » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:10 pm

I cant come to a 100% positive ID on this from those pictures, possibly a halmahera (sp?) Indonesian? The banding is rather strange on it though IMO. My largest skink is my Merauke, and shes 25" long. Shes a big skink though...so yours probably wont get *quite* that large. My custom tanks are 4 L x 2 W x 17 H, so that should be a fine size. They really dont need height...mine is only so tall because there are 2 levels.

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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Ethroes » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:54 pm

Thanks for the reply! She (or he) is about 16" in the picture. So is there a good rule of thumb you can follow for terrarium sizes? I want her to be as happy as possible and not feel cramped.

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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Sarikazam » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:14 pm

I would agree with Sapphire, the dark markings around the scales on her face makes me think Halmahera Indo.

As for a rule of thumb 'bigger is better' is the main one I hear. But either size you mentioned should be fine. My guys are also in 4'x2'x18" and it seems to be doing them well. They use all the space regularly, but it is roomy enough that I don't think they are cramped.
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby xxmonitorlizardxx » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:02 pm

Halamhera Indo.
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Ethroes » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:15 pm

Thanks a ton on the idenification guys! You're the best :D
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Fatal_S » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:34 pm

As a note, that skink does not look happy about being held. Maybe just because the person has to hold it one handed. But you should ask about it's attitude so you're prepared - WC Indos (really, any WC animal, but Indos are fairly notorious) can be very shy/defensive/aggressive to start with. No idea if the halmahera locality would be the same.
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Ethroes » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:57 pm

The one in the image is a captive bred skink, though I do agree it does not look to happy not being fully supported.
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Sarikazam » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:07 pm

CBB (Captive bred and born) Indos are pretty rare in the US and Canada. What some sellers call 'captive born' is actually just a gravid female that was recently taken from the wild and gave birth while being imported or shortly after.
Also looking at those pictures I noticed s/he is missing some toes. That could be a sign of being WC, or it could have been housed with other skinks, or it could be a sign of multiple bad sheds possibly due to poor husbandry.

But I could be wrong, and in any case he/she might turn out to be a lovely skink regardless of being CBB, CB, or WC. But the possibility is something to be aware of.
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Ethroes » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:35 pm

I know I might sound like a complete nub for asking this ( I have read all the care guides and what not, just not the in depth scientific stuff ) ,but do toes grow back? Because I know with tarantulas and other arthropods they can regenerate their limbs to some extent. Will they comeback, like if they lose their tail?
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Dakota » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:36 pm

Ethroes wrote:I know I might sound like a complete nub for asking this ( I have read all the care guides and what not, just not the in depth scientific stuff ) ,but do toes grow back? Because I know with tarantulas and other arthropods they can regenerate their limbs to some extent. Will they comeback, like if they lose their tail?

No, just tails. :thumbs: It would be great if they could.
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Bluish » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:09 pm

Sarikazam wrote:Also looking at those pictures I noticed s/he is missing some toes. That could be a sign of being WC, or it could have been housed with other skinks, or it could be a sign of multiple bad sheds possibly due to poor husbandry.


I see far more missing toes in cbb Northerns than wild caught Indo's. I've seen many problems with fresh imports but missing toes seems fairly rare.
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Dakota » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:13 pm

Bluish wrote:
Sarikazam wrote:Also looking at those pictures I noticed s/he is missing some toes. That could be a sign of being WC, or it could have been housed with other skinks, or it could be a sign of multiple bad sheds possibly due to poor husbandry.


I see far more missing toes in cbb Northerns than wild caught Indo's. I've seen many problems with fresh imports but missing toes seems fairly rare.

Is it me, or is there no missing toes? He's so black, it's hard to tell.. I can't see.. maybe some pictures of him on the ground will do some justice.. he is pretty little dude, though.
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Sarikazam » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:29 pm

Dakota Nivens wrote:Is it me, or is there no missing toes? He's so black, it's hard to tell.. I can't see.. maybe some pictures of him on the ground will do some justice.. he is pretty little dude, though.


It is difficult to see, it looked like some of his back toes were partially missing in the last picture.
But I will definitely agree, it is a very pretty skink either way!
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Fatal_S » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:28 pm

The last photo makes it look like some toes are missing, but the first photo looks like those same toes are there and fine. Maybe photo is just bad?
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Dakota » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:41 pm

Fatal_S wrote:The last photo makes it look like some toes are missing, but the first photo looks like those same toes are there and fine. Maybe photo is just bad?

I agree.. photos can be so misleading.. :dead:
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Dakota » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:41 pm

I would love to get my hands onto a Halmahera.
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Re: ID on Skink

Postby Spindown » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:39 pm

They are pretty! Toes do not grow back, and most skinks are wild caught, especially Indos of any flavor...the Halmahera's seem like the "hot new thing" to import lately! However, while the toe issue sucks, as long as they have healed cleanly it shouldnt affect the skink at all. WC Indos can be very tough to tame down, but its all up to the individual personalities of skink and person :)

ETA: Most people house their blueys in 40 gallon tanks as a minimum size. Bigger is always better, and 75 gallon tanks are GREAT for blueys...but heaaaavy.
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