Breeding Northerns - split topic

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Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Jeff » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:17 pm

I would love to see a picture of a 26" northern! I have never seen one before, and I have seen hundreds! The longest I have seen is 24 3/4".

Also, males don't have to be great breeders to get the job done, it just makes it easier for you if they are. Don't give up on him, just be willing to spend more time breeding if he isn't a "natural".
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Re: Breeding Northerns

Postby Scincoides » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:31 pm

Ha Jeff, I've never actually measured him, its entirely likely that he's slightly smaller than 26 inches. I'm no good with guestimating sizes. He's the largest Northern that I've ever seen. I'll put it that way :) like I said, I tried to add the photo but it didn't work. If you want to pm me your email, I'll send a pic. He's a stunning animal.
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Re: Breeding Northerns

Postby Katrina » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:39 pm

How come you couldn't add a photo? You should be able to using the photo uploader on the site. It allows for fairly large images.

You can also add it to photobucket or similar site and link it. I'd love to see him. :) Or, if all else fails, email it to me and I can add it.

Good luck with the breeding! Hopefully once he figures it out, he'll get better.
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Re: Breeding Northerns

Postby Scincoides » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:51 pm

When I tried uploading the photo it said "image file is invalid" or something similar. I tried with a few different pics.
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Re: Breeding Northerns

Postby Katrina » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:00 pm

Pic:
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Split this thread from here: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=22882

Gorgeous northern! I had no issues uploading it, if you're having problems and want to post more PM or email me and I can walk you through it.
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Richard.C » Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:33 am

ive held a 26 inch female,and seen a pic of an 82 cm long male,both the nt variety,the big male i believe is in the google pics of northerns
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Jeff » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:34 am

Can the 82 cm male be verified though Richard? That is over 32", and it seems like a bts that size would be documented somehow. I have never come across one that size in all the times I have been searching the internet for different things. I don't doubt that someone out there is claiming to have one that big, I would just really, really like to see it if they do!
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Richard.C » Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:15 pm

100 percent verified,might be bigger now
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Jeff » Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:18 pm

Well where are the pictures then!!! :ohyes:
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1.2.1 T. nigrolutea
2.2.0 T. r. rugosa
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Scincoides » Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:01 pm

I'd love to see some pics to!
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Jeff » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:09 pm

:whistle:
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2.2.0 T. r. rugosa
1.2.3 T.g. keyensis
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Richard.C » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:30 pm

ill see if i can find the google pic,ive heard on good authority there are a couple of other horse sized nt northens being kept in aus,not sure on sizes though
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Richard.C » Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:18 am

26 incher.jpg
thispic is the 26 inch female nt northern

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yhisisthe 82 cm male nt northern,owned and photographed by scott eipper,funnily its name is horse
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Jeff » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:09 am

Do you know the guy? I would really like to see a picture of the skink next to a ruler or something that shows its size. I don't know anything about this person, and he might be the most honest guy that ever lived, but I can't tell you how many times I have heard claims of 30" northerns that turned out to be false. I'm pretty sure that this guy will already have pictures out there of the skink being measured if it is really that big.

I will see if I can find any pictures too, now that I know the owner's name. Thanks Richard!
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1.2.1 T. nigrolutea
2.2.0 T. r. rugosa
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Spindown » Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:01 pm

Both my adult northerns are 20" :P
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Richard.C » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:55 pm

i dont know scott personally,perhaps rory does,hes pretty well known with aussie herpers and quite respectable,a few other keepers have varified its size,but ill see what i can find out

i remember reading an article from scott in an old herp journal on this lizard,must have been ten or more years ago when he still lived in melb,cant remember its age but believe its over 15 years old
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Jeff » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:21 pm

I have spent quite a bit of time looking for more on this skink, and have not had any luck. Can anyone show some evidence that this guy is really this big? I am hoping someone can. I would absolutely love to know that a northern can get that huge!
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1.2.1 T. nigrolutea
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Richard.C » Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:14 pm

ill pm scott and ask him,the 26 inch female i actually helped old owner of her measure,and yep bang on 26 inches
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby RoryBreaker » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:33 am

Richard.C wrote:i dont know scott personally,perhaps rory does,hes pretty well known with aussie herpers and quite respectable,a few other keepers have varified its size,but ill see what i can find out

i remember reading an article from scott in an old herp journal on this lizard,must have been ten or more years ago when he still lived in melb,cant remember its age but believe its over 15 years old


I haven't seen horse in person myself but I have met Scott and know many people who have seen Scott's "Horse". Scott has held this animal for more than 25 years. The general consensus from people who view this animal is, "Wow!!" Even from the non skink keepers.

Apparently he doesn't play well with females, Scott gave up trying to mate him after about the fourth death.
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Re: Breeding Northerns - split topic

Postby Jeff » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:23 am

Wow! That's great! (The size, not the fact that he kills females). Has he considered artificial insemination? A skink that size should definitely pass on his DNA. I know a few people in Australia have been doing AI for quite some time now, and they have it down to a science.

I would certainly like to see him give it a shot. I would still love to see this guy by something to show his size. Just a normal sized bluey or something else common, to give a sense of just how big that is. I can't really even picture what that must look like in person. Would be great to know the weight as well.
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2.2.7 T. s. scincoides
1.2.1 T. nigrolutea
2.2.0 T. r. rugosa
1.2.3 T.g. keyensis
2.0.5 T.s. chimaera
0.0.0. T. occipitalis
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