my enclosure

[realis88]

this my BTS enclosure

[xxmonitorlizardxx]

Is that a Savannah monitor?
And why are there several skinks in one enclosures?

[NennaMeerkat]

Hope that Savannah has access to both parts of that bottom cause he will need it! And that entire setup as a whole is awesome looking. Did you convert a entertainment center type piece of furniture into that or were you fortunate enough to find something already made?

[realis88]

Is that a Savannah monitor?
And why are there several skinks in one enclosures?

It's not the savannah monotor
It panoptes horni
I intentionally put them in one enclosure

[realis88]

Hope that Savannah has access to both parts of that bottom cause he will need it! And that entire setup as a whole is awesome looking. Did you convert a entertainment center type piece of furniture into that or were you fortunate enough to find something already made?

This is the result of homemade

[NennaMeerkat]

That is an awesome homemade enclosure! I wish I was that creative >.< And had the money to work with to make something of that size.

[Alioop]

Thats a very cool enclosure! What other animals are kept in there?

[Katrina]

That is a gorgeous display piece! Nice work!

I've love to see what else you have in there too.

[realis88]

That is an awesome homemade enclosure! I wish I was that creative >.< And had the money to work with to make something of that size.

thanks

[realis88]

Thats a very cool enclosure! What other animals are kept in there?

2 ball phyton
1 candoia carinata
1 argus monitor (panoptes horni)
6 bluetongue (3 IJ, 2 gigas halmahera, 1 tanimbar)

[realis88]

That is a gorgeous display piece! Nice work!

I've love to see what else you have in there too.

thanks katrina
only enclosure like this that I have and thanks for the information of your

[Katrina]

Hi everyone - Realis mentioned that he got some PMs from concerned members. We have already explained why most people don't keep Indonesian BTS housed together, although I know Realis is careful and has been doing this successfully for some time.

We are working on some sort of wording to put up to explain to newbies that this isn't recommended, but no need to PM and worry Realis or others in future. Just let a mod know and we can handle it.

[realis88]

Thanks katerina
I know when they are safe in his time in one enclosure and when they should be at the time of his separation
but I wouldn't count on that some existing members Private Messages me, because I think they are very good to me and is not a reproach but that is a concern and their kindness to me
and I apologize to all the member who offended because I post some photos of bluetongue in one enclosure

[Linnea]

i think these enclosures look great in their own way. the setup is rather interesting. i really wonder where you got all the wood(and what wood it is)?

as other already said, its not so good to keep that many together, but i understand you care for them differently. i dont mind that. theyve got great temps and humidity all year round after all, unlike what i can provide non-artificially.....
I really trust your and the mods words on this topic

[Bird_Brain]

Just playing devil's advocate, according to the highly recommended blue tongue skink book "Blue-tongued Skinks Conrtibutions to Tiliqua and Cyclodomorphus" on page 192 under "Group Composition" it states

New Guinea blue-tongued skinks are best kept in pairs through-out the year.

So the book that is highly praised for its information and care guide in regards to BTS and that was written and edited by 16 of the top Tiliqua experts, is providing disagreeing information from what this website agrees with. Does that mean this website is incorrect? Does it mean those 16 "experts" are really not experts and have no idea what they are talking about? IMO, neither are incorrect. As mentioned before, there are many different ways to care for BTS (well reptiles in general). We need to keep an open mind and not be so judgmental (and trust me, I probably have the hardest time with this!).

[Katrina]

Does that mean this website is incorrect? Does it mean those 16 "experts" are really not experts and have no idea what they are talking about? IMO, neither are incorrect. As mentioned before, there are many different ways to care for BTS (well reptiles in general). We need to keep an open mind and not be so judgmental (and trust me, I probably have the hardest time with this!).

Whatever Kat says should always be considered correct and above questioning. Even if I sometimes contradict myself.

Joking aside, I think this is a great point - things that we at one point thought were unquestionably true have been proven to be not always correct. There is still so much to learn about BTS that we definitely can't think we know all the answers. All we can do is provide the best advice we can and keep an open mind! Thanks for posting this Brad, excellent point.

[realis88]

i think these enclosures look great in their own way. the setup is rather interesting. i really wonder where you got all the wood(and what wood it is)?

as other already said, its not so good to keep that many together, but i understand you care for them differently. i dont mind that. theyve got great temps and humidity all year round after all, unlike what i can provide non-artificially.....
I really trust your and the mods words on this topic

I live in Indonesia and the cage was made of wood albazia falkatatria

[realis88]

Just playing devil's advocate, according to the highly recommended blue tongue skink book "Blue-tongued Skinks Conrtibutions to Tiliqua and Cyclodomorphus" on page 192 under "Group Composition" it states

New Guinea blue-tongued skinks are best kept in pairs through-out the year.

So the book that is highly praised for its information and care guide in regards to BTS and that was written and edited by 16 of the top Tiliqua experts, is providing disagreeing information from what this website agrees with. Does that mean this website is incorrect? Does it mean those 16 "experts" are really not experts and have no idea what they are talking about? IMO, neither are incorrect. As mentioned before, there are many different ways to care for BTS (well reptiles in general). We need to keep an open mind and not be so judgmental (and trust me, I probably have the hardest time with this!).

thanks