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raw meat?

Postby unreadjewel » Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:28 pm

just wondering why it says to cook all meat before feeding? my bluey loved raw beef mince when i offered her alittle but reading the caresheet it says too cook beef. Is it unsafe to feed raw?
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Postby reaperreptiles » Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:33 pm

Every once in a while when my family eats chicken, i will cut off the fat and grisle and some chunks of meat and save it for my blueys. I have learned than neither of them will eat it fully cooked, I have to boil some water and drop the chunked chicken in for a few seconds just until it sort of turn a translucent white color. This is the only way my blueys will eat it. I wouldnt give them raw meat just from fear of bacteria or parasites but boiled just long enough to kill all that junk. But thats just my opinion:)
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Postby blackmailchan » Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:23 pm

There's a lot of ickies in raw meat that you want to keep your Bluey away from.

I always feed bits of my grilled chicken when my mom makes it to Roosevelt too. I make sure to only feed the inner parts of the meat that haven't been spiced so that he doesn't get sick or something. I don't know what pepper does to BTS but I wouldn't like to find out.
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Postby Katrina » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:24 pm

The caresheet recommends cooked meat just because often store bought meats aren't the best quality and so it is just safer to recommend cooking the meat first.

If you get good quality meat of a known source then it shouldn't be an issue. I know El Lobo feeds raw kangaroo rump and if I have organic beef I'll feed it raw. I wouldn't feed store bought chicken raw though.

It isn't really unsafe to feed raw meat if you use good judgement - the caresheet presents the 'better safe than sorry' version because you can't be sure that people reading it will use common sense! :wink:
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Postby unreadjewel » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:29 pm

ok this is meat from our own cattle so we know how it was grown etc she really enjoyed the raw stuff but I was worried it was bad for her.. our meat pretty good here... :)
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Postby Fatal_S » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:36 pm

I'm with Kat here, but I'll add I'm pretty laid back about these sorts of things. I try to stick with the 'don't feed anything you wouldn't eat yourself' rule, but that's about it.
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Postby unreadjewel » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:43 pm

well if it was anice piece of very rare steak i would gladly munch it. home grown no hormones milk and grass feed angus... cant get much better :)
guess it wont harm her then...
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Postby Katrina » Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:09 pm

unreadjewel wrote:well if it was anice piece of very rare steak i would gladly munch it. home grown no hormones milk and grass feed angus... cant get much better :)
guess it wont harm her then...


Ooh - that sounds excellent.... send some North for my skinks!! :D They would love it!!
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Postby critterguy » Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:16 pm

Are much nutrients lost in the cooking process?

I've offered cook chicken to mine-makes him go a little nuts so I generally avoid it.
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Postby Lea » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:18 pm

The longer a meat sits, the more at risk it is of bacteria and other parasites, such as nematodes, growing and culturing their wee selves in it. If it is from your own cattle and you are certain the risk is minimal, then I am sure it will be fine.

Just remember, even the best kept meats will still carry a risk.

On the other hand, blue tongues will eat carrion in the wild, which will be loaded with bugs and other nasties! But, in the wild, their guts will be used to it and we don't fully know the consequences of them doing so and whether their lives are adversely affected from such actions. More than likely, they suffer little- but saying that, the "risk factor" is still there.
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Postby El Lobo » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:43 am

Fatal_S wrote:I'm with Kat here, but I'll add I'm pretty laid back about these sorts of things. I try to stick with the 'don't feed anything you wouldn't eat yourself' rule, but that's about it.


Fatal - Do you eat dog or cat food? :wink:
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Postby Katrina » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:14 am

El Lobo wrote:
Fatal_S wrote:I'm with Kat here, but I'll add I'm pretty laid back about these sorts of things. I try to stick with the 'don't feed anything you wouldn't eat yourself' rule, but that's about it.


Fatal - Do you eat dog or cat food? :wink:


I remember her saying she eats Kraft Dinner... :lol: I think that is worse!
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Postby reaperreptiles » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:30 am

:lol:
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Postby Fatal_S » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:08 pm

Yes Lobo, I have tasted the dog food. I've also eaten eggshells and a cricket. I don't make a habit of eating everything I feed my skinks, but if pushed I would be willing to eat anything I feed my skinks (the rats and bugs would need a really, really big push though).

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Postby reaperreptiles » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:06 pm

:lol: wow, your commited. more props to yah!
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Postby Ectothermicfauna » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:54 pm

LeaBilby wrote:
On the other hand, blue tongues will eat carrion in the wild, which will be loaded with bugs and other nasties! But, in the wild, their guts will be used to it and we don't fully know the consequences of them doing so and whether their lives are adversely affected from such actions.


too true, but at the same time we do know that reptiles survive longer in captivity on average than in the wild and it could just be because we dont give them the carrion or germ loaded stuff- in addition to other factors such as predation etc. of course.

Personally I use 97/3 ground turkey that a cook very slowly and drain the drippings. along with others. Ive also found that my blueys have a liking for moose but they only reeive it in very tiny amounts because of the utter absurdity of an Australian animal eating an Alaskan animal. Funny though!

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