does anyone have a head comparison for "visual" se

SapphireTigress1 · Postby **SapphireTigress1** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:10 pm

does anyone have a head comparison for "visual" sexing?

I'm starting to see differences but i'd love to see if anyone had head shots to compare. or at least a picture with arrows showing where the differences are.
thanks

reaperreptiles · Postby **reaperreptiles** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:41 pm

Yes, I agree. I would love to see some visual differences in sexes. Come on guys! Post up the pics:)

reaperreptiles · Postby **reaperreptiles** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:21 pm

The skink on the left is my female caramel northern. The one on the right is a possible male (but still unsure)

the female is 1 year old and the male is 9 months old.

Linnea · Postby **Linnea** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:39 pm

wow reaper, that was a great pic.

Now, if you find out thats a male for sure, post and say it, cause the headshape on Litchie is exactly the same xD

Postby **Bird_Brain** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:46 pm

From my experience, head shape and sexing do not go together. I think it is very near impossible to get accurate results with sexing bts by head shape.

Fatal_S · Postby **Fatal_S** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:59 pm

I'm with Brad on this, here's some head-shots of most of my Northerns:
Males:
Clue:

Wasp:

Jenga:

Females:
Fluke:

Trouble:

Evita:

Hank:

Missing are my two males, Pryce and Skids. I'll add them tomorrow.

Clue, Trouble, Fluke and Wasp are all 4, from Andrew Seike, and spent their first year with me on what I now consider to be a piss-poor diet, so they're smaller and this could affect their headshapes. But really I can't see any correlation between headshape and gender. I do see a lot of difference in body-shape in most well-fed adult skinks, so that's what I use for my guesses, though I still consider it to be a big guess.

These pictures are pretty bad too. Unfortunately I can't put my skinks together, they're all really grumpy right now.

Postby **Katrina** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:00 pm

ReptileKing wrote:From my experience, head shape and sexing do not go together. I think it is very near impossible to get accurate results with sexing bts by head shape.

Same here. Like I said in another thread (and most know already!), the seller we first got blueys from sexed by this method. We have a boy named Kira and a girl named Jaxon. :lol:

Postby **Jeff** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:21 am

I would just add that occasionally you will see a head that is SO wide and triangular that it is almost certainly a male. However, if the head is anything less than "unbelievably massive" (which includes 99% of all BTS heads), then it is useless for sexing. If you have a number of known genders to compare it to side by side in person, you can sometimes use the head along with several other attributes IF they all seem to indicate the same gender.

There really is no sure fire way to sex a BTS visually. I have met 4 people that are very good at it, but everyone of them has over 25 years of experience with hundreds, actually probably thousands of skinks. That is what you need in order to sex them visually.

Postby **Katrina** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:32 pm

These are good photos though... we have a visual sexing thread in the Advanced Discussion Forum for Meraukes and Blotchies - we should start one for Northerns.

Even if head size isn't a reliable method, there are other visual indicators of sex that are much more reliable... and obviously none of us are experts like Ray or Andrew (and some skinks are very, very difficult to sex visually), but I'm sure we can all learn from it.

does anyone have a head comparison for "visual" se

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