reaperreptiles wrote::) You know ive been torn about whether or not she was a caramel. dont really know what classifies one as a caramel. is it the lack of black coloration. bc her markings that should be black are a chocolate brown. with the 'caramel' lol and peach colors. yeah my female started packing on weight a few months ago, she just slowed down this last week. Her head needs to grow now bc it looks small compared to her body.lol
Caramel is just a color description I suppose. I have two sibling caramels from the original James Wilson line, and one that looks caramely from an unknown source (the one that looks almost identical to your girl). I suppose my boy may not be from the original caramel genetic line (or he may be) but he matches the same look, so I consider him caramel as well. Thankfully Andrew arranged it so that the siblings were male/female, so now that I know Jenga is a boy he definitely has a mate. I'll probably find a home for the sibling male (Katrina...) since I don't want to breed litter-mates. ...I went on a tangent there.
Anyways, it mostly describes a color-type (the less intense yellows with some browns and little-to-no black), but could also be used for the James Wilson line specifically. So I have two James Wilson caramels and one unknown caramel IMO. Same goes for the Andrew Seike sunsets (intense oranges/golds/yellows). Anyways, if this ends up being female, you can contact Andrew or Ray about getting a Wilson-line caramel, as they may have extra known-males they'd be willing to part with, and you'd have a stunning group

It is also possible they could ID our unknown caramels, though I haven't asked them to check the records for mine. If they have baby pictures you can generally match the pattern on Northerns, which is how Andrew tries to keep track of his sunsets. I assume Ray still has his old baby pictures, but can't be sure (I really need to talk to him more).
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