Anyone able to ID Gonzo for me? Also think he may be podgy!

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Anyone able to ID Gonzo for me? Also think he may be podgy!

Postby Blucas » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:37 pm

I posted pics before and IJ, Northern and Merauke were mentioned, but I got some better pics of his colouring and markings today so thought I'd see if they helped at all.

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Faint eye bands and pale front legs
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Speckly back legs
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This is the best shot I could get of the difference in colour along his sides to his back. Shiny scales are difficult to photograph. :roll: :lol:
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Also, does he look podgy? He's 20 inches long, and weighed in a few days ago at 868g. I think he looks a little too round, but as skinks are a pretty chunky animal anyway I'm unsure what's the optimum weight for him. :noknow:
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Re: Anyone able to ID Gonzo for me? Also think he may be pod

Postby Kurt » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:49 pm

my guess... IJ. my second guess is IJ x northern.

Gonzo is def not a pure merauke or pure northern.
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Re: Anyone able to ID Gonzo for me? Also think he may be pod

Postby Fatal_S » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:36 pm

Looks very much like an IJ to me. I'd definitely say not Merauke, and I don't see Northern.

And ya, he looks to be overweight. I don't know what optimum weight would be for him, but he should look streamlined (especially if a known male) and not bulgy. Right now his neck, hips and tail all show extra weight to me. I'd start him on a diet (reduce food, more veggies/greens and less proteins, more exercise) if he was mine. This is just my opinion though, and I haven't had much experience with overweight skinks.
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Re: Anyone able to ID Gonzo for me? Also think he may be pod

Postby Katrina » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:42 pm

Definitely not Northern.

He is some sort of gigas - there are no clearly defined lines between what a Merauke vs IJ is. There is a natural transition in the wild and because IJs aren't recognized species it is even fuzzier. If I had to call him something, I'd say IJ for sure - but he really is just an in between type BTS that doesn't fall clearly into any category. :D Very cool looking, there are a couple pics that look like him in the bluey bible.

He definitely isn't going hungry, you can feed sparingly! :D
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Re: Anyone able to ID Gonzo for me? Also think he may be pod

Postby Blucas » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:56 pm

Thanks for the replies, having looked through various photos I've seen a few IJ's that share similar markings.

Fatal_S wrote:And ya, he looks to be overweight. I don't know what optimum weight would be for him, but he should look streamlined (especially if a known male) and not bulgy. Right now his neck, hips and tail all show extra weight to me. I'd start him on a diet (reduce food, more veggies/greens and less proteins, more exercise) if he was mine. This is just my opinion though, and I haven't had much experience with overweight skinks.

I'm glad I'm not just being a paranoid skink-mum. Those are the areas that made me think he was overweight, particularly the bulges infront of his rear legs. (Though he is due a poo :mrgreen: ) I like to keep my pets on the slimmer side of normal as a rule so I've got no experience with animal diets at all. :? He's not a definite male though, as far as I know. His previous owner called him a he, but I'm not sure how that came about, whether he was accurately sexed or just guessed at.

I've been trying to get him exersising as much as I can, but he's not too keen, he seems to like sleeping more than running around. :roll: I've been training my son to be on sofa-watch when Gonzos out, so he tells me when he needs to be stopped from disappearing which means he can stay out for longer. :lol: Fingers crossed the combination of diet and exercise will make him a tad more enthusiastic. :thumbs:

Katrina wrote:He is some sort of gigas - there are no clearly defined lines between what a Merauke vs IJ is. There is a natural transition in the wild and because IJs aren't recognized species it is even fuzzier. If I had to call him something, I'd say IJ for sure - but he really is just an in between type BTS that doesn't fall clearly into any category. :D Very cool looking, there are a couple pics that look like him in the bluey bible.

He definitely isn't going hungry, you can feed sparingly! :D

Thanks, I'm obviously biased but I do think he's lovely. :D

When you say sparingly how little do you think I could get away with? I'm feeding once a week at the moment, his last meal was about 6 crickets (I know they aren't great, the shop was all out of locusts and nowhere here seems to sell roaches :roll:) and a tablespoon of veg/fruit, which he didn't finish. Could I up the veg/meat ratio in the short term 'til he's less round?
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Re: Anyone able to ID Gonzo for me? Also think he may be pod

Postby Katrina » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:06 pm

That meal sounds fine - I'd feed about 40% protein and 60% veggies and greens with fruit as treats on occasion. If you feed about 2 tablespoons once or twice a week that should be fine. They aren't very active and have slow metabolisms, so you won't see grams melting away. It will be a very slow process, but feed small amounts of healthy foods and he will be fine. Don't expect quick changes - it sounds like your diet is pretty good already, so just keep it up. :D
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Re: Anyone able to ID Gonzo for me? Also think he may be pod

Postby realis88 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:05 pm

im sad look this but nice color IJ
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Re: Anyone able to ID Gonzo for me? Also think he may be pod

Postby Panana_Blue » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:18 am

Look really nice and chunky IJ, I have no doubt thats he got no problem with his health...
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This guy similarity patternless with IJ above, sometimes you can be surprise actually WC can turn up such a owesome look..!!
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Re: Anyone able to ID Gonzo for me? Also think he may be pod

Postby Blucas » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:22 am

Oh wow, that is a gorgeous skink. :D Makes sense that wild animals breeding will also occasionally throw up genetic mutations that we breed for in captivity.

Gonzo does seem to be perfectly healthy, his previous owners also got him checked out by a reptile vet and they didn't find any problems with his health. Still, I'm sure losing a little of the excess podge will keep him in tip-top condition. :thumbs:
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Re: Anyone able to ID Gonzo for me? Also think he may be pod

Postby xxmonitorlizardxx » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:23 am

Woahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
Panana Blue could you make a new topic on that awesome bluey!?!?
That would be one of the only IJ's I like!!
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Re: Anyone able to ID Gonzo for me? Also think he may be pod

Postby Panana_Blue » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:50 pm

Thanks...that IJ extremely my favorite. One in a million you could find something like that in the wild.
I will make new thread soon. Sorry Gonzo, didnt mean step over your posing. You really are gorgeous..!!

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